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	<title>Comments on: We need the role models of today to step forward and inspire</title>
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		<title>By: thetawaves</title>
		<link>http://www.tmponline.org/2007/08/30/we-need-the-role-models-of-today-to-step-forward-and-inspire/#comment-304</link>
		<dc:creator>thetawaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Damon is also a patron of the Eastside Academy – a charity focused on young black boys in Newham, London. "

"Damon is President of Fairbridge – a nationwide charity that works to support young people in 13 inner cities throughout the United Kingdom."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Damon is also a patron of the Eastside Academy – a charity focused on young black boys in Newham, London. &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Damon is President of Fairbridge – a nationwide charity that works to support young people in 13 inner cities throughout the United Kingdom.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: thetawaves</title>
		<link>http://www.tmponline.org/2007/08/30/we-need-the-role-models-of-today-to-step-forward-and-inspire/#comment-303</link>
		<dc:creator>thetawaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh it's me again...
To be fair, alot of black people in these positions do things privately for black people. For instance, they you may not see them on TV all the time as "role models" but they quietly and anonymously give resources to help people help themselves. I just found out about this program to help inner city kids Buffini is Chairman of  you can read about it &lt;a href="http://www.hbsaasu.com/custpage.cfm/frm/8139/sec_id/8176" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;

So let's all try to be open-minded and not too judgemental.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh it&#8217;s me again&#8230;<br />
To be fair, alot of black people in these positions do things privately for black people. For instance, they you may not see them on TV all the time as &#8220;role models&#8221; but they quietly and anonymously give resources to help people help themselves. I just found out about this program to help inner city kids Buffini is Chairman of  you can read about it <a href="http://www.hbsaasu.com/custpage.cfm/frm/8139/sec_id/8176" rel="nofollow">here</a></p>
<p>So let&#8217;s all try to be open-minded and not too judgemental.</p>
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		<title>By: thetawaves</title>
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		<dc:creator>thetawaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn....I just happened to surf on to this site but I have to say that brother (or sister) Mao is Spot on. Wow, that is powerful. I agree 1,500%!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn&#8230;.I just happened to surf on to this site but I have to say that brother (or sister) Mao is Spot on. Wow, that is powerful. I agree 1,500%!</p>
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		<title>By: Mao</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 19:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have actually met (for professional reasons) the reclusive Damon Buffini on a couple of occassions, and he is a nice enough guy on a personal level. But let's get real here. Bufinni made his fortune in Private Equity essentially by targetting companies for takeover and then asset stripping them. The result is that an awful lot of people (many of them black people) are now unemployed.  

You say that Bufinni is a "positive examples for young people - not just black kids, but all those who struggle to succeed in unequal, modern Britain"

What exactly has Bufinni done to make Britain a more equal place? Surely you are not suggesting that enriching yourself at others expense defines what we mean by the term "positive role model"? 

The whole problem with this piece is that it assumes a corollation between individual success and community advancement.  The USA has its share of black millionaires, more than we do anyway. Some, like Oprah Winfrey are in entertainment. Others, like Condo Rice and Colin Powell, have even reached high political office.

Yet if you look at the stats on income distribution, by race and class, you can see that the entry of some black people into the ranks of the super rich,  has made no appreciable difference to unemployment patterns, poor housing and education, inner-city deprivation, gun crime and all the other economic and social problems which so disproportionately affect the black population of the USA. 

"Ah, yes,"  we are told, "if you work hard, you too could be a Oprah or a Condi, or in Britain perhaps a Bufinni"

In the meantime, the social deprivation caused by a system which rewards the Bufinnis of this world is crushing the life chances of the 99.99% of black people, who will never join the ranks of the super rich however hard they study or work.  That's the real issue, and if you try to seperate race from class, you do a disservice to ordinary folks everywhere, black and white.

Moreover, what moral values are we teaching our childern, if we hold up the God of Money (unobtainable for most) as the ultimate in human achievement?

Let me be brutally honest here. If money and status is the emancipatory goal (rather than co-operation and community), then let's also hold up successful drug dealers and gangsters as role models for young people. It's a career they have a damn site more chance of succeeding in than Private Equity, and it's arguably no more immoral in its outcomes.

Real role models are those who look out for the community, not their personal selfish interests. Spartacus did not rebel against slavery in order to become a slave owner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have actually met (for professional reasons) the reclusive Damon Buffini on a couple of occassions, and he is a nice enough guy on a personal level. But let&#8217;s get real here. Bufinni made his fortune in Private Equity essentially by targetting companies for takeover and then asset stripping them. The result is that an awful lot of people (many of them black people) are now unemployed.  </p>
<p>You say that Bufinni is a &#8220;positive examples for young people - not just black kids, but all those who struggle to succeed in unequal, modern Britain&#8221;</p>
<p>What exactly has Bufinni done to make Britain a more equal place? Surely you are not suggesting that enriching yourself at others expense defines what we mean by the term &#8220;positive role model&#8221;? </p>
<p>The whole problem with this piece is that it assumes a corollation between individual success and community advancement.  The USA has its share of black millionaires, more than we do anyway. Some, like Oprah Winfrey are in entertainment. Others, like Condo Rice and Colin Powell, have even reached high political office.</p>
<p>Yet if you look at the stats on income distribution, by race and class, you can see that the entry of some black people into the ranks of the super rich,  has made no appreciable difference to unemployment patterns, poor housing and education, inner-city deprivation, gun crime and all the other economic and social problems which so disproportionately affect the black population of the USA. </p>
<p>&#8220;Ah, yes,&#8221;  we are told, &#8220;if you work hard, you too could be a Oprah or a Condi, or in Britain perhaps a Bufinni&#8221;</p>
<p>In the meantime, the social deprivation caused by a system which rewards the Bufinnis of this world is crushing the life chances of the 99.99% of black people, who will never join the ranks of the super rich however hard they study or work.  That&#8217;s the real issue, and if you try to seperate race from class, you do a disservice to ordinary folks everywhere, black and white.</p>
<p>Moreover, what moral values are we teaching our childern, if we hold up the God of Money (unobtainable for most) as the ultimate in human achievement?</p>
<p>Let me be brutally honest here. If money and status is the emancipatory goal (rather than co-operation and community), then let&#8217;s also hold up successful drug dealers and gangsters as role models for young people. It&#8217;s a career they have a damn site more chance of succeeding in than Private Equity, and it&#8217;s arguably no more immoral in its outcomes.</p>
<p>Real role models are those who look out for the community, not their personal selfish interests. Spartacus did not rebel against slavery in order to become a slave owner.</p>
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