Note: There is an upcoming meeting about the Forest Hill Police shooting organised by Lewisham Police on Saturday 25th February at 1pm – 3pm at Kilmorie Primary School, Kilmorie Road, Lewisham, SE23 2SP details here:Â http://bit.ly/yLo7Eq
The following piece is an individual’s account about a public meeting regarding the Forest Hill shooting on Monday 20th February that was organised by Lewisham Police
Written by a Lewisham ResidentÂ
So…I’ve just returned from a ‘community meeting’ held by the Met Police regarding the shooting of a young black man at the end of my road yesterday. Now I don’t usually get involved in these types of events but as it was the end of my road, I felt a need.
I’m sure that those of you who live in Lewisham, heard all about the meeting as it was announced at 4pm [on Monday] for a meeting held at 6pm! Wow the Met were clearly expecting a crowd to attend and were clearly doing their best to ensure that we do not have a repeat of the riots last year following another shooting.
As such who was in attendance? The room was full of councillors, representatives from this community safety organisation or another, council staff etc – but where were the actual residents? They weren’t there because we weren’t proactively informed that’s why! So…there were only about 30 people in attendance.
Now I am not a member of any of these organisations, I’m not on their mailing lists nor really wishing to be. I only heard about the meeting on the grapevine and luckily I was at home. Whispers in the room stated that the police had knocked on doors today and a Met community support bus was located on Stanstead Road where residents could access information but as the meeting progressed it was clear that the Met didn’t do any of that to ensure their presence – less community noise for them I think!
So the Met Police ‘PR show’ – as my sister called it – had a senior Met rep from Scotland Yard, Lewisham Borough Commander and reps from the IPCC were presenting. I won’t bore you with the details of the meeting, but I made it very clear at a number of points that as a resident I wasn’t happy with ‘lazy’ policing, which meant that residents weren’t at the meeting. I also noted the lack of consideration about how to proactively garner residents support/attendance/share information through relevant media – not just social media – but though basic leaflets/door knocking/local radio. Instead the Borough Commander stated that they would learn the lessons from today in order make improvements – really…do we pay our taxes so that the Met can continue to learn, but not do in these situations!
Updates from the meeting:
Fact: Yes the victim was black and for some reason the IPCC felt the need to highlight that he was of Ghanaian extraction – which they explained at the meeting was due to the need to provide accurate information to press queries.
Fact: A taser was displaced but apparently it didn’t work to subdue the man and so shots were fired – the details of why will form part of the IPCC investigation.
Fact: There are no details about how many shots/tasers were fired. — Note: 5 shots were fired and 3 hit the man.
Fact: The man has now stabilised and is no longer critical.
Fact: The IPCC investigation could take 6-8 months – therefore they will make concerted efforts to publish regular and accurate press information to dispel current rumours.
Fact: The Met are monitoring social media to ensure that we do have repeat of last year and have special force in place to quickly dispel public disorder.
Met Police Next Steps (Which I am positive they will take I board)
· To take on board the positive points made in order to arrange another community focussed meeting.
· To take on board some of the recommendations noted by those in
attendance in regards to the investigation.
· The IPCC will ensure that they make a concerted effort to attend the next community meeting in order to provide relevant updates concerning their investigation.
What Can You Do:
· Attend the next meeting if you live in Lewisham
· If you are a witness to the event or know anyone who was, forward details to the Met
· Dispel rumours and only share the facts as published by the Met/IPCC
Met Police Website:
http://content.met.police.uk/News/Man-shot-by-police-in-Lewisham/1400006745524/1257246745756
IPCC website:
http://www.ipcc.gov.uk/news/Pages/pr_200212_lewishamshooting.aspx
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Report of Meeting about Police Shooting a Ghanaian British man in Forest Hill, London – The Multicultural Politic http://t.co/ViLTMobP
If you witnessed the incident & can assist the independent investigation please email: foresthill@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk or call 0800 096 9077 – i.e. you needn’t go through the police.
The IPCC are only releasing confirmed facts – their website is http://www.ipcc.gov.uk/en/Pages/news.aspx
Police promised to have another meeting and have organised and announced it within 48 hours – they are following suggestions given by the residents at the last meeting, such as a leaflet drop in surrounding roads. Details are on their website http://bit.ly/yLo7Eq and in local media like the South London Press.
The police arranged a public meeting within 48 hours of the shooting, is that a positive step forwards from last August? The author found out about it despite not being in one of the organisations refered to – the message clearly did get out.
The author was not the only resident in that room, perhaps it felt like that because not everyone shared their views. If someone lives in that area that is what makes them a resident, whether they are active in a local community group or not, in the neighbourhood watch or not, use social networking or never use social networks, have never voted or are a local councillor – it is not about who you are, but where you live.
From Lewisham CPCG
If you witnessed the incident & can assist the independent investigation please email: foresthill@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk or call 0800 096 9077
– i.e. they needn’t go through the Met.
The IPCC are only releasing confirmed facts – their website is http://www.ipcc.gov.uk/en/Pages/news.aspx
Police promised to have another meeting and have organised and announced it within 48 hours – they are following suggestions given by the residents at the last meeting, such as a leaflet drop in surrounding roads.
Details are on their website http://bit.ly/yLo7Eq and local media like the South London Press.
The police arranged a public meeting within 48 hours of the shooting, and the author found out about it despite not being in one of the organisations – so the message did get out?
The author was not the only resident in that room, perhaps it felt like that because not everyone shared their views. If someone lives in that area that makes them a resident, not whether they are active in a local community group or not, in the neighbourhood watch or not, use social networking or never use social networks, have never voted or are a local councillor – it is not about who you are, but where you live.
I’m shocked , outraged and generally speechless. Shot 5 times by a police marksman and put in hospital. I would of hoped after all the money we spend on police training , they would of killed the thieving shit.
Adam, I’ve only published your comment to show a: your distasteful humour b: the fact that many people happily put property above and before human life.
Justin, ‘property above human life’????? He had a
machette, he refused to put it down, if it was your car he was breaking into and you tried to stop him , do you not think he not of used it on you? He was a Ghanian with British residency. Is this how he treats the country that has welcomed him? I am at a loss why a tiny minority of people (and you are a very tiny minority) kiss the rear end of every criminal that might come from an ethnic minority. I lived in Ghana and I tell you should a theif be caught by people out there they would be preying the Police got to them first. You can delete this if you want which I think you will do, but it will only show that you are afriad of a logical debate.
The sad fact is that this parasite will now be a burden on the NHS.
I will be glad to expound this view at a public meeting and not behind the anonimity a keyboard so please let me know when the next one is on this subject.